pnw-natives Discussion List

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[The sister list pnw-spineless dicusses Pacific Northwest invertebrates.]

The pnw-natives discussion list is a forum for people to discuss gardening with Pacific Northwest native plants, especially gardening to rebuild habitat for wildlife. Wildlife includes anything from bears and cougars to soil bacteria, and everything in between. Topics such as how to keep a pond from completely freezing in the winter to attracting butterflies to combatting invasive weeds are entirely appropriate. Topics such as vegetable gardening, growing plants that are not native to our area, or how to choose a lawn care service should be taken somewhere else, such as the pacnwgardn list, or the usenet newsgroup rec.gardens.

The pnw-natives list covers a larger chunk of the Pacific Northwest than the web site can. Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia west of the Cascade and Coast ranges are still the primary region. However, discussions about eastern OR, WA, and BC and even beyond are welcome. But do say where you are posting from--if no one knows you're from Spokane, you'll probably get recommendations for all the wrong plants!

You can subscribe to pnw-natives by clicking on the subscribe command below, if your browser can send unformatted mail for you. Otherwise, send a mail message to with the subscribe command in the body of the message:

subscribe pnw-natives

When your subscribe command is received, Majordomo, the list server, will send you a message asking you to confirm that you want to subscribe to this list. Simply follow the instructions in the message. This confirmation step is to prevent vandals from subscribing you to mailing lists without your knowledge or consent, and it also makes sure that the address that you subscribed from is valid.

After you've received the welcome message as confirmation that you are a member, you can send your messages to Nonsubscribers are not permitted to send messages to the list.

Note: If you have mangled your return address in an attempt to slow down spam, you won't be able to subscribe or post messages to the list. You'll probably never get an error message either. PLEASE check that your return address in the From: line is correct before subscribing to this or any other e-mail list! Mangling return addresses is not useful for blocking spam compared to a good email program with filters--mangled return addresses only annoy the people you'd really like to hear from.

Another possible source of confusion is sending formatted messages. List server software does not understand HTML or other formatting code, and will either send you an error message such as 'no command found' or else you'll just never hear anything back. You must turn off formatting and send your mesages in plain (ASCII) text. This applies to posts to the list as well. All posts must be in plain text.

To manage your list settings after you've subscribed, you can send the following commands in the body of a message to:

You might be able to click on the links to have your browser create the command message for you. Be sure that your return address is set correctly! Note that most commands are only available to subscribers.

To subscribe and receive individual mesages:
subscribe pnw-natives

To unsubscribe if you're getting individual mesages:
unsubscribe pnw-natives

To subscribe and receive the digest:
subscribe pnw-natives-digest

To unsubscribe if you're getting the digest:
unsubscribe pnw-natives-digest

To get a current copy of the welcome message:
intro pnw-natives

To receive the standard majordomo help file:

To switch to daily digests instead of individual messages:
set pnw-natives digest

To switch to individual messages instead of daily digests:
set pnw-natives nodigest

To temporarily stop receiving mail without unsubscribing:
set pnw-natives nomail

To resume receiving mail:
set pnw-natives mail

To get an index of available archive files:
index pnw-natives

This command will retrieve a listing of the files available. The CONTENTS file lists the subjects for each digest. The TOPICS file lists all subjects, and the digests in which they appear. These files are regenerated daily.

The files with names in the form of v01.n006 are the digests that are sent to digest subscribers. They are sent out approximately daily, or when they hit 40k, whichever comes first. The files with names in the form of pnw-natives.200001 are the monthly archives. They contain all messages for the given year/month.

To get a copy of an available file:
get pnw-natives filename

Replace 'filename' with the name of the file you want to retrieve. You can GET several files at a time. The server will probably be happiest if you restrict it to less than 10 at a time, though.